VeryFinePeople

Twitter 2017-08 politics archived Updated 2026-02-21
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First documented in August 2017 on Twitter. Archived: no longer in active use, preserved here for the historical record.

Also known as: BothSidesFineP peopleBothSidesCharlottesvilleResponse

Trump’s claim there were “very fine people on both sides” of the Charlottesville white supremacist rally became one of his most controversial statements, with critics arguing he equated neo-Nazis with anti-racism protesters.

The Press Conference

At an August 15, 2017 press conference—three days after the Charlottesville rally and Heather Heyer’s murder—Trump defended his initial response and stated: “You had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.”

He added: “You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name… You’re changing history. You’re changing culture.”

Trump claimed the media unfairly blamed him for not immediately condemning white supremacists strongly enough, though critics noted his reluctance to explicitly denounce the groups by name.

Immediate Backlash

The comments sparked bipartisan outrage. Republican Senators Marco Rubio, Orrin Hatch, and Tim Scott condemned the moral equivalence. Corporate CEOs resigned from Trump advisory councils in protest. Military leaders issued rare public statements affirming that racism contradicts American values.

Critics argued there were no “very fine people” marching alongside torch-bearing neo-Nazis chanting “Jews will not replace us.” The rally was organized by white supremacists, advertised on white supremacist forums, and featured Nazi salutes and racist chants.

Fact-Check Debates

Trump defenders later claimed he was misquoted or that media edited his remarks to exclude his condemnation of neo-Nazis. However, full transcripts show he did condemn “the neo-Nazis and white nationalists” while maintaining there were “very fine people on both sides”—creating confusion about whom he meant.

The Anti-Defamation League and historians noted the rally was explicitly organized by white nationalists, making the “very fine people” claim historically inaccurate regardless of interpretation.

Political Legacy

The phrase became shorthand for Trump’s relationship with white nationalism and reluctance to condemn far-right extremism. Opponents cited it as evidence of racism, while supporters argued he was defending Confederate heritage advocates unfairly labeled as racists.

References: Press conference transcripts, resignation letters, Republican Senator statements, ADL analysis, transcript fact-checks, Washington Post, New York Times

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